Until 1949, Ahrens-Fox Model H and I apparatus was powered by the Hercules type HXE motor, made in Canton, OH.
“Latest Apparatus for Fire Service. Series H & I, most recent
equipment of The Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., Cincinnati, Ohio, includes
apparatus of 1,000 gpm, capacity (Series H) and 750 capacity (Series
I). They are designed for universal service under the conditions
prevailing in the majority of cities, towns and fire districts, and are
provided in combination pumping engines, ladder apparatus, hose cars
and special-duty units of all kinds.
“As pioneer motor fire-engine
builders, this organization has developed many innovations which are
now accepted as standards of fire-fighting technique and apparatus
design. Being makers of motors and pumps, and builders of component
automotive parts especially designed for the particular requirements of
fire department equipment, Ahrens-Fox produces real fire apparatus
units which give dependable service.
“The motor used in apparatus of the H & I series combines extreme
simplicity, a minimum of parts, economy, and extraordinary power at
moderate rotative and piston speeds,. Ignition is by two separate
systems—magneto and battery—with dual spark plugs.
“The fire pumps furnished are either the Twin-Triple piston or
two-stage series-parallel types, with pump pressure ratings up to 600
pounds. Twenty-two Model H pumping engines recently delivered to the
city of New York and the New York World’s Fair were equipped with
Twin-Triple piston type pumps capable of developing 600 pound net pump
pressure.”
Photo caption: “THE TWENTY 1,000-GALLON PISTON PUMPERS RECENTLY
DELIVERED BY AHRENS-FOX FIRE ENGINE CO. TO THE CITY OF NEW YORK.”
Nov. 5, 1936: Bids submitted to Akron, OH, for 85’ aerial and 100-gpm pumper. All bids were rejected due to controversy over whether these rigs had to have manufacturer’s own motor, or could use commercial motor. Some bidders did not make their own motors capable of 200 horsepower. [Former Ahrens-Fox Chicago salesman Robert R. Johnson told me that American-LaFrance frequently brought legal action in cities whose specifications required features that ALF could not provide, and gave me documents about various such cases in New York, Cincinnati, and elsewhere, but I have no specific evidence that ALF was the cause of the disruption in the Akron bids.]
Feb. 8, 1937: Letter from Fire Chief C.E. Harris, 57 S. Broadway, Akron, Ohio, to Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., Cincinnati, Ohio. “Please forward a copy of your latest specifications for 85-foot aerial ladder truck, as we are in the market for one.”
Feb. 11, 1937: Letter from Carl J. Grome, Chief Sales Clerk, Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., to Chief C.E. Harris, Akron, OH. “We are referring your inquiry to our representative, Mr. Gordon H. Litchfield, Pittsburgher Hotel., Pittsburgh, Pa.”
Feb. 11, 1937: Letter from Carl J. Grome to Gordon H. Litchfield, asking him to send them aerial specifications as Ahrens-Fox ran pout of them and are awaiting more from the printer. Litchfield replied on Feb. 14 that he would take care of this.
Feb. 17, 1937: Letter from Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., Cincinnati,
to Gordon H. Litchfield, Pittsburgh, Pa., quoting bulletin from Ohio
News Bureau:
“Revival of the fight over fire equipment
specifications are in prospect as Chief Harris began to prepare forms
for an 85 ft. aerial [#2065] and 1000 gpm pumper [#9036]. Chief Harris
said he would draft specs calling for motor made by the manufacturer of
the equipment, as he does not want assembled equipment.” [This
requirement must have been dropped, since the rigs they eventually
bought from Ahrens-Fox both had Hercules motors. ALF’s actions in New
York and Cincinnati opened up bids to commercial motors, which
backfired against ALF, allowing Mack to win in New York and Ahrens-Fox
in Cincinnati, both with Hercules motors. It looks as if the same
happened in Akron!]
Feb. 21, 1937: Letter from Gordon H. Litchfield to John P. Ahrens. Wants to discuss their bids on 1000-gpm centrifugal triple and 85-ft. aerial before he submits them to Akron.
March 10, 1937: Letter from G. McQuiggan, acting purchasing agent,
Akron, OH, to Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., enclosing specifications for
fire apparatus, bids to be opened 1:00 p.m. March 22, 1937.
“85 ft.
aerial, tractor type. 200 H.P. motor, 6 or more cyl. 1 spare wheel.
Brakes on all wheels power boosted & controlled by driver. 1
flasher warning light. Windshield for tillerman. 1 set tire chains.
Mars light. 85 ft. aerial telescoping & extending. Turntable &
hoisting device operable by 1 man. Ladders 1 each 50’, 45’, 30’, 25’,
20’, 18’, 16’, 14’, two 35’. 1 Quick detachable ladder pipe with swivel
nozzle. 1 life net (Atlas or equal). One 15-ton Duff heavy jack. 2
sledge hammers. 1 pair Port roof ladder hooks. Two McCaa 2-hour oxygen
masks. 1 Homelite portable floodlighting generator with two 500-watt
& one 250-watt flood lamps. 1 each Davis and E&J inhalators.
Parts book.”
March 12, 1937: Letter from John P. Ahrens, vice president sales, Ahrens-Fox, to G. McQuiggan, acting purchasing agent, Akron, OH. Specifications received, preparing bid proposal & specifications, which Pittsburgh representative Gordon H. Litchfield will submit in due time & proper form.
March 12, 1937: Letter from John P. Ahrens, vice president sales, Ahrens-Fox, to Gordon H. Litchfield, subject Akron, Ohio.
“We are in receipt today of specifications and advertisement for
subject city. We will go over the specifications carefully and give you
our views on same so that you can give it consideration and let us have
your views, after which, we will make up proposal accordingly.”
March 15, 1937: Gordon Litchfield’s reply to John P. Ahrens’ March 12 letter. “I plan to be in the Cincinnati office this coming Thursday. Will you please ask Carl [Grome] to make up bids on our Models BC, H4C, and HC, leaving prices blank, and the 3 of us can chew them over when I get there Thursday. Also HD85 & AD85 aerials.”
March 13, 1937: Letter from Carl J. Grome, chief sales clerk, Ahrens-Fox, to Gordon Litchfield:
“Our last copies of bids submitted at Akron were in the flood and have
not located same up to the present time. [Ahrens-Fox factory at 8th
& Evans Sts. in Cincinnati was damaged in the Ohio River flood of
Feb., 1937, and many of their records were either lost or badly stained
with mud.] If convenient, please give us a copy of the itemized list of
extras and any further information as to bids submitted there last. ...
Relative to the parts list as called for, these copies are destroyed.”
Undated: List of extra equipment for Akron, Ohio, 85’ aerial.
1
spare wheel, $24. 1 MotoRay flasher warning light, $7.50 (reduced from
$35), 1 set tire chains (normally $15), no charge. Mars light, $50.
extra 88’ of ladders, $440. Quick detachable ladder pipe with swivel
nozzle, $190 (reduced from $290). Life net (Atlas or equal), $215.
extra sledge hammer, $7. 1 pair portable roof ladder hooks (normally
$10), no charge. Two McCaa 2-hour oxygen masks, $460. 1 Homelite
portable flood lighting generator with two 500-watt & one 250-watt
flood lamps, $305. One Davis inhalator, $140 (reduced from $170), one
E& J inhalator, $350 (incorrectly priced at $170 initially). Total
extras $2188 (originally $2191).
March 22, 1937: Bid proposal from Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co. to
Honorable City Purchasing Agent, Akron, Ohio, for one 85-foot double
bank aerial hook & ladder truck, tractor type, model B-S, built in
accordance with specifications attached, for the sum of $20,038, less
2% discount if two pieces of apparatus purchased, less 5% for full cash
payment on delivery. Delivery f.o.b. Akron, Ohio, shipment within 90 to
120 working days after receipt of contract. Proposal subject to
withdrawal unless accepted within 15 days.
Proposal and price
covered standard Ahrens-Fox 85’ aerial, plus the following exceptional
requirements: 1 spare wheel, brakes on all wheels power boosted &
controlled by driver, flasher warning light, windshield for tillerman,
1 set tire chains, Mars light, 288’ of ladders (200’ standard), Quick
detachable ladder pipe with swivel nozzle, life net, 15-ton jack, extra
sledge hammer, 1 pair portable roof ladder hooks, two 2-hour McCaa
oxygen masks, 1 Homelite portable flood lighting generator with two
500-watt & one 250-watt flood lamps, one each Davis and E&J
inhalators.
Alternative bid Model HS, same specifications & exceptional requirements, except motor 53/4” x 6”, 203 brake horsepower @ 2000 rpm. Certified check for $100 had to be attached to each bid submitted.
March 22, 1937: Bids for aerial, Akron, OH:
| Make | Price | Cash | Both Rigs |
| Ahrens-Fox BS | 20,038 | 5% off | 2% off |
| Ahrens-Fox HC | 18,938 | 5% off | 2% off |
| Seagrave | 20,350 | 5% off | 2% off |
| ALF | 20,350 | 5% off | 2% off |
| Mack type 19 | 16,000 | no discounts (demo) | |
| Pirsch 14H wood | 17,500 | 2% off | no discnt |
| Pirsch 14H steel | 18,000 | 2% off | no discnt |
| General 99 wood | 15,945 | no discounts | |
| General 99 steel | 16,534 | no discounts | |
| Buffalo | No bid on aerial (pumper only) |
March 22, 1937: Letter from Gordon Litchfield to John P. Ahrens,
about bids at Akron. “LaFrance & Seagrave evidently got their heads
together again, the same as they did last November when they both
under-bid us by exactly $90. Apparently they tried it again, but this
time the shoe happened to be on the other foot [Ahrens-Fox’s aerial bid
was $318 less than the identical ALF & Seagrave bids, and their
pumper bid $203 less than the ALF/Seagrave bids.]
“It was a
surprise to me that General bid on the aerial. For my part, I never
before heard of their bidding on one, let alone building one. Did you?
“I guess Mack has quit trying to build aerials. You will notice that
they bid only on a demonstrator, which they evidently still have on
their hands.”
October 30, 1937: Shipped to Akron, OH. Sale by Gordon H. Litchfield, Pittsburgh, PA, Ahrens-Fox western PA/eastern OH sales agent. Delivery photo #993. In service as Ladder 1.
1951: Replaced by new Mack aerial. Out of service.
December, 1937: Fire Engineering magazine, pages 642-645, article about proposed fire protection at 1939 World’s Fair (Golden Gate Exposition), Treasure Island, San Francisco, CA. Treasure Island is man-made by dredging the bottom of San Francisco Bay; lies 900 feet north of Yerba Buena Island, 8700 feet from San Francisco’s pier-head line, and 4.7 miles from downtown San Francisco. Fair to cover 400 acres, value of buildings and contents $40 million. Two fire stations: one in a hangar at southeast corner of island, other near 3 ferry slips at northwest corner of island. Department to consist of 80 men in two platoons under a Chief and Deputy Chief, reporting to Chief Charles J. Brennan of San Francisco Fire Dept. Equipment to consist of five old spare hose wagons equipped with 100’ of 21/2” hose and 12’ roof ladder, plus two new 85’ aerials with water tower facilities but no rescue capabilities, specially-designed for the 1939 World’s Fair. All of this equipment to be served by a network of 200 standard double fire hydrants (capable of attaching both National Standard and San Francisco Square threads), supplied by a permanently-mounted fireboat manifold capable of delivering up to 5000 gpm @ 150 psi using salt water drawn directly from the San Francisco Bay. All World’s Fair apparatus to be dispatched by an ADT system including 50 street-corner fire alarm boxes, and100 interior fire alarm pull-stations inside the buildings. The various Fair buildings to contain 172 Aero fire detectors, linked into the ADT system by 18 alarm circuits. First alarm to bring 2 or 3 hose wagons and an aerial (from the nearest firehouse), second alarm the bring the other hose wagons and the other aerial (from the other firehouse on the Island), and a San Francisco fire boat. Beyond a second alarm to require a special code signal to San Francisco Fire Dept. for additional equipment (pumpers, aerials, etc.). Fair to close in 1940 and become an airport, reducing the amount of apparatus and personnel required to protect the island.
1938: Ahrens-Fox President Charles H. Fox, and New York District Sales Agent Clarence E. Meek, met with San Francisco Fire Chief Charles J. Brennan, to discuss possibility of Ahrens-Fox winning the contract for the two 85’ aerials for the World’s Fair. Meek pointed out to Brennan that Ahrens-Fox’s “tower aerial”, introduced 8 years earlier, had been the first aerial capable of the double duty as a ladder truck and water tower that Brennan required. Brennan countered that after the Fair closed, both aerials would go in service in downtown San Francisco, and would have to be able to negotiate the city’s steep hills. But so far, no manufacturer with whom Brennan had met could offer a flexible enough fifth wheel arrangement to vertically “bend in the middle” over the hills. Mr. Fox pondered the problem for only a moment, pulled a note pad from his pocket, and sketched in great detail. Then, handing the sketch to Chief Brennan, asked “You mean, something like this?” Astonished, Brennan agreed that this sketch showed exactly what he required. While it is hard to say whether this was the deciding factor that won Ahrens-Fox the contract, Fox’s ability to quickly solve problems clearly helped A-F win the contract.
Sept. 19, 1938: 4 brass spring clip spacers made for LeBlond-Schacht Truck Co. on their Order #17118, for Ahrens-Fox Reg. Nos. 2066 & 2067 for San Francisco. Made by Standard Pattern Works, Spring Grove & Queen City, Cincinnati.
1938: Ahrens-Fox New York District Sales Agent Clarence E. Meek composed the following brochure about Ahrens-Fox Bascule Tower Aerials:
AHRENS-FOX BASCULE TOWER AERIAL
Even this brief outline of the latest Aerial Ladder Truck, would be incomplete without directing attention to the following:
THE AERIAL HOIST AND ITS CONTROLS
The Turn-Table—mounted in the conventional manner—carries the Aerial
Ladder and its belongings in a self-contained manner. This includes the
several electric motors, their hydraulic pump, and their various
connections.
Wonderfully compact and convenient are the provisions made for manipulating the various aerial ladder evolutions.
All that has to do with controlling these maneuvers—such as levers,
switches, valves, gauges, etc.—are centralized at the Operator’s
station on the Turn-Table.
Every item concerned with control is within easy reach, and a fact that
bears repeating is that one person with the hands has full control of
all operations.
AHRENS-FOX BASCULE TOWER AERIAL
Newly developed and taking advantage of all available betterments in
both materials and facilities for production, “Bascule” Ladder Trucks
abound with numerous refinements.
Furthermore, the many major and minor improvements are such as could
not possibly be contrived successfully by other than skilled engineers
and mechanics, backed by the knowledge gained over a long and intimate
association with Fire Apparatus design and construction.
THE PROOF—of
the above statement—invites a careful survey of the details involved.
Verification of Ahrens-Fox claims calls for a close inspection and
carefully weighed comparisons of any and all features.
THE BASCULE TYPE
AHRENS-FOX TOWER AERIAL
MOST ADVANCED OF ALL
MECHANIZED LADDER TRUCKS
Sacrificing none of the recognized essentials, the introduction of the “Bascule” principles—plus numerous other new and original features—represents a distinctive departure in the make-up, operation, and performance of Fire Department Aerial Apparatus.
OBJECTIVES ATTAINED—
Greater Safety. The elimination of hazards, risked by firemen when working aloft.
Speedier Action. Cutting deeply into the time required to place the Aerial Ladder into workable position.
SPower Facilities—for Raising, Extending, and Rotating the Aerial—whereby, exhaustive manual efforts are reduced to “finger touch controls”.
SEFFECTIVE
KNOWLEDGE GAINED BY LONG EXPERIENCE, THE “BASCULE” FORM OF TOWER AERIAL
LADDER TRUCKS ARE SUCH AS CHALLENGE INTIMATE COMPARISONS.
THE AHRENS-FOX FIRE ENGINE COMPANY
BASCULE TOWER AERIAL
THE BASCULE PRINICPLE—as applied by Ahrens-Fox—employs a series
of properly-calibrated Coil Springs as a counter-poise against the
gross weight of the Aerial Ladder.
The effect is that these springs
serve to maintain a state of equilibrium, thereby balancing the ladder
at any angle upwards to the vertical position.
A further resultant is that this constant balance nullifies the danger
of the ladder falling at any time by force of its own weight.
FORTIFIED AGAINST FALLING—the force which actually motivates the aerial ladder is supplied hydraulically, but obviously, relieved of the ladder weight, it follows that the pressure force is correspondingly small.
A BALANCED LADDER—PLUS LOW
PRESSURE—are two factors which contribute safety to Aerials operating on the Bascule principle.
Compared with systems which are wholly “hydraulic”, the Bascule
pressures—comparatively —represent but a minor fraction of the other
greater requirement.
BASCULE TOWER AERIAL
THE MORE MODERATE HYDRAULIC
PRESSURES—employed by Ahrens-Fox
to motivate the Bascule Aerial Ladder is produced by a small pump of
the centrifugal type—mounted upon the Turn-Table. This pump is driven
electrically and “peaks” at about 100 pounds pressure per square inch,
and interposed in the hydraulic circuit, no relief valve nor other
governing device is required.
Pressure Force—derived from the
pump—passes through a “Control Valve” and by which, the non-freezing
fluid is caused to flow against the pistons, which in turn actuate the
aerial ladder.
The function of the pump is to transfer the hydraulic fluid from either
one to the other end of the actuating cylinders, and by means of a
single small lever, attached to the Control Valve, the operation is
reversible—VIZ.—
Directed against one side of the piston, the ladder is raised. In its
neutral position, the ladder halts and is automatically locked by the
fluid.
In reverse position, hydraulic pressure returns the ladder to its
horizontal position by overcoming the opposed force of the balancing
springs.
BASCULE TOWER AERIAL
ELECTRICAL FEATURES—The simplicity which attends the
distribution of Power—”electrically”—justifies its substitution for the
further functions involved. Therefore, aside from the hydraulic method
provided for raising and depressing the Aerial Ladder, the additional
demands for power are served electrically.
SOURCE OF CURRENT—Standard Bascule Aerials are fitted with an
Electric Generator—driven by power derived from the engine which
propels the apparatus.
Voltage and capacity are suitable and
adequate to supply all electrical auxiliaries, with current to spare
for operating a reasonable number of Flood Lights together with such
electrical tools as may be adaptable to the Fire Service.
ELECTRIC MOTORS—Standard Equipment includes:
Motor for driving the hydraulic pump.
Reversible motor for extending the Aerial.
Reversible motor for rotating the Turn-Table.
Collectively—the foregoing electrical units, exceed the aggregate force that might be mustered by a crew of not less than fifty able-bodied men.
BASCULE TOWER AERIAL
BRIEF OUTLINE OF CHARACTERISTICS
SENIOR TYPE—upwards from 75 feet—are in the generally accepted form, i.e., comprising:
FOUR-WHEEL TRACTOR WITH SEMI-TRAILER ATTACHED.
FRAME STRUCTURES—for both tractor and trailer are more than ordinarily well-proportioned to their loads.
TRAILER FRAME—is of pressed steel. Drop type, with a maximum channel section of 12 inches. The frame is strongly re-enforced, with five-inch tubular cross members at the most vulnerable points.
FRONT AND REAR STEER—The tractor “cuts under” and the steering range is such as affords desirable advantage in close situations.
TILLERMAN’S STATION—A new and unique feature. The seat is so placed as to afford clear vision. Moreover, the tillerman sits well behind the rear wheels—leaving but a short overhang at the rear. Pitched toward the man at the wheel, the steering column “breaks” to permit the semi-automatic tipping of the entire seating unit when the Tillerman leaves his station.
COMFORTABLE AND ALSO MUCH MORE PRACTICAL AND SAFE ARE THE NOVEL ARRANGEMENTS PROVIDED FOR THE BETTER GUIDANCE AND CONTROL AT THE REAR.
June 26, 1939: Shipped to World’s Fair, San Francisco, CA. Reg. Nos. 2066 and 2067 were the last new vehicles that would ever roll out of the combined LeBlond-Schacht Truck/Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine factory at Eighth & Evans Sts., Cincinnati. By the time #2066 and #2067 were completed in the downtown Cincinnati plant and ready to ship, LeBlond-Schacht was no longer making commercial trucks, and the entire operation had moved into the LeBlond Engineering plant, 4932 Beech St., Norwood (a suburb north of Cincinnati). The five Ahrens-Fox employees who drove and tillered the two aerials out of the factory, locked the 8th Street doors behind them for the last time, and drove to the freight yards to send the rigs west, were: Richard Frank, foreman of the sheet-metal shop (who resigned that very day rather than transfer to Norwood); Ray Morath (the sheet-metal fabricator who had hand-hammered much of the body on these two rigs); Emil Graf (delivery engineer); George Gross (service mechanic); and Johnny Miller (who was one of the assemblers of these rigs). It is most likely that Graf and Gross (being the most experience in operating Ahrens-Fox apparatus) drove the tractors, while Morath and Miller were probably tillering, leaving experienced people-manager Richard Frank the likely role of navigator to help these massive rigs dodge downtown Cincinnati traffic.
July 28, 1939: In service at Fire Station 1 (Southeast Station), World’s Fair (Golden Gate Exposition), Treasure Island, San Francisco, CA. SFFD Shop #41 (old style straight bumper).
1941: Was in service as Truck 3, San Francisco.
1963: Tractor attached to 1901 Gorter 76-foot water tower of Water Tower 1. Trailer attached to 1948 Seagrave tractor (waterfall grille) and to Truck 3.
1966: Fox trailer #2066 with 1948 Seagrave tractor running as Truck 18.
March 21, 1975: Tractor & trailer of #2066 were reunited, and sold to Art Bowen, Home Finders, Inc., 1834 First St., Napa, CA 94558.
November, 1980: Sold to Craig Waterous, Sacramento, CA (Sacramento Fire Dept. dispatcher).
December, 1980: Sold to Mary Haseley, Mount Aukum, CA.
To M. Schnetz, Plymouth, CA, son-in-law of Mary Haseley.
July 22, 1986: Donated by M. Schnetz to Plymouth Fire Dept., Ione, CA. But first he stripped off serial number plates from tractor, and axe, pike pole, & ladder brackets from trailer, then moved to Las Vegas and became a police officer, taking this hardware with him.
1993: Wendell Joost, Guerneville, CA (1937 Mack tractor-drawn service ladder truck, ex-San Francisco) saw & photoed #2066 in field at Plymouth fire station. Still in good, restorable condition.
Fall, 1995: Letter to editor in Enjine!Enjine! magazine (National SPAAMFAA): We have one of two Ahrens-Fox fire trucks built for San Francisco in the 1930s. A small town of about 1,000 currently owns this Ahrens-Fox which runs but is rapidly decaying. We would like to find a good home for it—in California if possible. If you know of anyone who might be interested, please contact: Wayne Prince-Davis, Mayor, City of Plymouth, P.O. Box 429, Plymouth, CA 95669, or telephone the City clerk at 209-245-6941. [Wayne Prince-Davis home phone is 209-245-4002].
1995: Las Vegas police officer M. Schnetz of Las Vegas sold the ladder-mounting hardware and serial number plates from #2066 to SPAAMFAA member Dave Larson of Las Vegas, NV.
Photos of #2066 in 1995:
right side
left front
January, 1996: Ed Hass sent letter in behalf of himself, Wendell Joost of Guerneville, and Jack Nealon of San Francisco, seeking to acquire this rig as a trio of co-owners.
May, 1996: Ed and Barbara Hass, Marc Goldman, and Jay & Lois King went to Plymouth to see and photo this rig. Also tried to purchase it for Ed Hass, Jack Nealon, and Wendell Joost, without success. It was parked outside beside firehouse, rusting. Someone removed the upper electric motor from the right side of the ladder hoist.
June 13, 1996: Disposal of this rig on agenda of Plymouth city council, but no decision made.
December, 1996: Plymouth notified Wendell Joost that he, Jack Nealon, and Ed Hass could pick up this rig in June. Wendell planned to haul the trailer home using tractor of his ex-San Francisco Mack tractor-trailer service ladder, and have the Fox tractor commercially towed home. But 3 months later, Plymouth changed their minds and decided to keep this truck, with the plan of eventually restoring it (if it doesn’t rust into the ground first). But first they need to restore a 1937 GMC pumper that is also sitting out by the firehouse, and there is no plan yet to start on its restoration.
June 7, 1997: Dave Larson of Las Vegas sold the serial-number plates and ladder-mounting hardware from #2066 to Ed Hass, Sunnyvale, CA, for $150. If and when this rig is ever restored, these parts will go back on it. Meanwhile, they are stored in a clean, dry place so they will not rust as the rest of this truck is doing.
October, 2002: #2066 is being restored for Plymouth at Folsom Prison, Folsom, CA. Plymouth purchased all of the parts for #2066 from Ed Hass.
Sept. 19, 1938: 4 brass spring clip spacers made for LeBlond-Schacht Truck Co. on their Order #17118, for Ahrens-Fox Reg. Nos. 2066 & 2067 for San Francisco. Made by Standard Pattern Works, Spring Grove & Queen City, Cincinnati.
June 26, 1939: Shipped to World’s Fair, San Francisco, CA. (see #2066 for story of its shipment).
July 28, 1939: In service at Fire Station 2(Northwest Station), World’s Fair (Golden Gate Exposition), Treasure Island, San Francisco, CA. SFFD Shop #42 (new style bumper with curve in center).
1941: Was in service as Truck 13, San Francisco.
c-1968: Tractor attached to c-1903 tillered service ladder trailer (originally horse drawn). Circa-1954 Seagrave tractor (Century Series) attached to trailer.
1966: Fox trailer #2067 with circa-1954 Seagrave tractor running as Truck 19.
1976: Tractor & trailer of #2067 reattached to each other, and sold to Saint Francis Hook & Ladder Society. Moved into outdoor storage.
1983: Owner is Saint Francis Hook & Ladder Society, c/o William Koenig, 260 Golden Gate Ave., San Francisco, CA 94102.
1993: Rick Zoebelein, San Mateo, CA, photoed this rig, it is rough, a lot of rust on trailer, wood ladders badly rotted after 17 years outdoors. Tractor still in restorable condition. Trailer numbered from Truck 19, evidently its last assignment before its 1976 retirement.
August, 1994: Moved to a barn in Santa Rosa, CA. Front of tractor and rear of trailer stick out, but most of the rig is finally under a roof.
May 8, 1931: Bid proposal from Gordon H. Litchfield, Pittsburgh sales agent, Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., to Borough Council, Borough of Avalon, PA, for one 600 Gallon Quadruple Rotary Type Pumping Engine, Hose Car, Ladder Truck, and Booster Equipment. Delivery f.o.b. to Borough of Avalon, PA. Shipment from factory in 90 days after receipt of contract.
August 11, 1931: Shipped to Avalon, PA.
1967: To a city park, Avalon, PA. Tires removed.
Junked.
December 3, 1935: Shipped to Louisville, KY. In service as Quad 6. Price $13,184. While this rig was under construction, Bob Johnson, Ahrens-Fox Chicago agent, visited the Ahrens-Fox plant in Cincinnati, was surprised to find this the ONLY fire engine then on the construction floor. Delivery photos #927 & 928.
1951: To Auxiliary Quad 6.
1958: To Auxiliary Quad 9.
July 16, 1962: Letter from Tom Tallentire, 2552 Madison Rd., Apt. 51, Cincinnati 8, OH, to Bill Hass. “Curt Nepper...runs what is left of Ahrens-Fox. He has had an operation recently, but I think he goes to the shop part-time now. A 1937 A-F quad of Louisville is being rebuilt now, with new motor (Waukesha 145-GZB) and transmission, power steering and brakes.” Also installed a new 1000-GPM Hale centrifugal pump.
1972: Loaned to camp ground at Otter Creek Park, KY. In service.
August, 1994: Vintage Truck & Fire Engine Monthly, page 44—2 Ahrens-Fox Quads [5063 and 8019], selling complete units as parts, $1,300 for both. Louis Fenchel, 454 Fox Lane, Lancaster, SC 29720 (803) 285-7627.
October 14, 1994: Owner is Louis Fenchel, Lancaster, SC. No radiator or pump, surface rust, no dents, no equipment, stored in Salem, IN (near KY border), for sale, $650.Motor is free, could be made to run, but not easily. Fenchel bought #5063 and #8019 to save them from being scrapped, but does not want to spend the money to ship them to SC and restore them.
October 15, 1994: Spoke to Wendell Joost, Guerneville, CA, phone (707) 869-9507. He owns a 1937 Mack six-wheel, tractor-drawn service ladder truck (ex-San Francisco, CA) and just bought a 1924 Seagrave pumper, and is interested in buying and restoring this rig. He has long wanted an Ahrens-Fox, wants a quad to complement his pumper and tillered ladder, and likes the flat-front radiator style. As I will probably buy #8019, we might load both on a 90-foot railroad flatcar and ship them to California.Might have Bill Darrow take them to his farm at 530 Fairground Rd., Xenia, OH, and store them until we can arrange to ship them to CA. Bill still has the radiator from 1930 UP-100-4 #5042 which is the same as the radiator missing from #5063, and can also supply Seagrave trussed wood ground ladders for one or both of these quads.
October 20, 1994: Received photos of #5063 and 8019 from Louis Fenchel, and spoke to him on phone. Neither rig ever had a title or registration, but Fenchel can provide bill of sale to get them. #5063 has no radiator, old radiator shroud now in use in Louisville as speaker’s podium. Tattered upholstery on driver’s seat and side crew seats. Front fenders and seat risers are in relatively-new primer but already some surface rust. Windshield intact, red cowl lights but left light missing lens. Both rear red flashers intact. Original L.F.D. lettering on hood (double-green left shading). One ladder, one pike pole, some hose. Side-view mirrors, front and side suction holders. No pump, but pump from Bill Darrow’s 1930 UP-100-4 #5042 will probably fit and is similar to the original pump. No headlights. Chrome trim strips on hood. No Registered No. plates.
October 25, 1994: Discussed purchase of #5063 with Wendell Joost of Guerneville, CA, again. As it would cost $650 to buy this rig, plus about $2,000 to ship it west, plus $1,000 for the radiator, pump, and panel from Bill Darrow, plus $800 for the trussed Seagrave wood ground ladders from Chip Lyttle (8 ladders @ $100 each), he would be into the rig about $4500 before he even began restoration. This does not count the cost of flying to Ohio, and renting a truck to haul the motor, pump, and ladders to Salem, IN, to put on the quad before shipment, which brings it closer to $6,000 plus restoration cost. As he already has a 1924 Seagrave pumper and 1937 Mack ladder truck under restoration, this is just too much additional cost for him to take on. Need to find someone in the midwest who wants #5063, so they eliminate the flying and shipping cost. Cost of just buying the rig, pump, radiator, and ladders would then be only about $2,500, which makes it economically feasible.
Nov. 9, 1994: I sent Fenchel the following letter: I regret to inform you that after analyzing all of the costs involved, my friend Wendell Joost and I have decided not to buy your two ex-Louisville Ahrens-Fox quads. Wendell was planning to buy the 1935 HRU #5063, and I would take the 1937 IRU #8019.
While the initial $650 purchase price for each is very attractive, the other costs are not.
On the 1935, we found that Bill Darrow of Xenia, OH, has a radiator, pump, and pump panel to fit it. The radiator is on what’s left of his 1930 Fox quad #5042 ex-Hillsboro, OH, and the pump and pump panel off his 1938 EC pumper #9034, ex-Covington, KY. He wants $1,000 for the radiator, pump, and pump panel, but Wendell would have to fly out (at least $500 round-trip airfare) and remove the parts from the rigs himself, then rent a truck ($200?) to haul them to the quad. Also, Bill’s friends has the needed ladders at $100 each, or $800 for the 8 ladders that a quad typically carried. Then everything would have to be loaded on a truck and shipped west for another $2,000. So just to get all the needed parts and get everything home, he would already be into it $5,200 before even starting a restoration. Then it would need a professional paint job (at least $2,000 for a rig this big) and replating (about another $2,000), plus re-equip the hosebed with hose (about $500). Now we’re up to $9,700, plus his time to rebuild the motor, pump, and drive-train (which is not a direct outlay of money, but his time is worth something, too). This is more than the rig is worth in terms of resale value, and what you have for all that time and expense is a huge truck that is nearly impossible to maneuver on city streets to, from, and in parades. Wendell currently owns and is restoring a 1924 Seagrave pumper and 1937 Mack tractor-trailer service ladder truck, and right now he simply cannot afford to lay out nearly $10,000 to buy, ship, and restore a THIRD rig!
The situation on the 1937 that I wanted to buy is not much better. I would not have the $1700 to fly to Ohio, buy parts from Darrow, and truck them to where the quads are, but all of the other shipping and restoration costs would be the same, making my investment $7,000 plus my time to sand off the rust, and do all the mechanical repairs, plus the costs (at least $500) to weld in new sheet metal patches to replace the rust-through in the cowl. Frankly, this rig is not worth an investment of $7,500 cash and a few hundred hours of my time. I have the added problem that unlike Wendell, I do not own a ranch on which I can park the rig, I would have to pay for the additional storage space at about $150 a month every month for as long as I would own the rig. As it is now, it costs me over $200 a month to store my 1953 Ahrens-Fox, two hand-drawn hose reels, and my fire alarm system, and I also have on-going maintenance costs on my ‘53 now that it is restored. So it really is not economically feasible for me to take on another rig for so much, either.
Another drawback to these rigs is their lack of identification. California Motor Vehicles Dept. says they would accept a bill of sale from you, and a statement from me that there never was a title or registration before, to issue a title and registration, as long as they can verify the identity of the rigs, but with no serial number plate on either of them anymore, and no longer having the original motors to match motor numbers, verification could be a real problem. If we could not gain clear titles and registrations, these rigs would not be worthwhile for that reason alone, let alone for the steep shipping and restoration costs.
I have contacted a few people in the midwest about buying these rigs from you, where the costs to get things home aren’t as steep as to California, I have found some mild interest but not great enthusiasm. But I have a few leads on people who might want them, and I’ll see what I can do to find them good homes. I would hate to see them parted-out or worse, junked outright. The 1935 is the only one of its kind ever built, and the 1937 is one of only 3 of its basic design still existing (the other two are in Everett, Wash., and Hampton, Va.).
Again, I apologize for stringing you along on buying the 2 quads from you, but it took Wendell and me that long to investigate all the costs and logistics before we could determine that they are just not worth it to us (and we both started out with a great deal of enthusiasm for these rigs, so it was painful for us to have to decide to walk away from the deal).
March 26, 1936: Tested at Cincinnati, OH, from 5’ lift by C.D. Lehman, Engineer, National Board of Fire Underwriters.
First Test, 6 hours. Two 50’ lines of 21/2” hose, 2” nozzle. 1001 gpm @
127 psi. Engine 1192 rpm, pump 715 rpm. Displacement 1.40 gpr. Second
Test, 3hours. 50’ line of 21/2” hose, 13/8” nozzle, discharge
throttled. 507 gpm @ 209 psi. Engine 1249 rpm, pump 444 rpm.
Displacement 1.14 gpr.
Third Test, 3hours. 50’ line of 21/2” hose, 11/8” nozzle, discharge
throttled. 339 gpm @ 256 psi. Engine 954 rpm, pump 339 rpm.
Displacement 1.00 gpr.
April 15, 1936: Shipped to Newcastle, IN, to replace wrecked J-S-4 #1241. Delivery photo #933.
1963: Sold to Blue Ash Life Squad, Blue Ash, OH. In service.
1966: To a city park in Blue Ash, OH.
July, 1971: My father & I photoed this rig in park at Blue Ash, OH. Rusty, badly stripped of body parts and equipment, and radiator had been hit with a bulldozer blade.
April 6, 1931: Bid proposal from Frederic E. Bensen, NY District sales agent, Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., to President & Members Town Council, Bloomsburg, PA, for on City Service Truck Model H-444. Delivery F.O.B. at Bloomsburg, PA. Shipment from factory in 90 days after receipt of contract.
August 31, 1931: Shipped to Liberty Hook & Ladder Co. #4, Bloomsburg, PA.
September 1, 1931: Delivered to Bloomsburg, PA.
1966: Body and equipment remounted on new Ford cab-forward, tilt-cab chassis.
1981: Still in service.
May 14, 1932: Shipped to Elkins Park, PA. Painted tampa beige.
Dec., 1953: Ad in Fire Engineering magazine, page 1148—SACRIFICE For Quick Sale - Ahrens-Fox City Service Ladder Truck - Excellent Condition. Rebuilt Hercules 6 cylinder motor. 6 new tires. Full compliment of ladders. Portable lighting system. $3,000. Elkins Park Fire Co., 7818 Montgomery Avenue, Elkins Park, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.
March, 1954: Ad in Fire Engineering magazine, page 272—SACRIFICE For Quick Sale - Ahrens-Fox City Service Ladder Truck - Excellent Condition. Rebuilt Hercules 6 cylinder motor. 6 new tires. Full compliment of ladders. Portable lighting system. Will consider a reasonable offer. Elkins Park Fire Co., 7818 Montgomery Avenue, Elkins Park, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. [Note that price changed from $3,000 to “any reasonable offer.”]
August, 1972: Fire Engineering page 144: Elkins Park selling 1963 & 1965 American-LaFrance pumpers. 7818 Montgomery Ave., Elkins Park, PA 19117, phone (215) 635-9937.
June 11, 1932: Shipped to Maghogomock Hook & Ladder Co. #1, Port Jervis, NY.
1954: Sold to Washington, NJ.
1960s: Sold.
April 14, 1937: Shipped to San Francisco, CA. Attached to formerly horse-drawn 1903 service ladder truck trailer. In service as Truck 8.
Tractor junked. 1903 trailer to Saint Francis Hook & Ladder Co., San Francisco, CA.
April 19, 1937: Ordered by Pawtucket, RI.
October 30, 1937: Shipped to Pawtucket, RI. Sale by Ira A. Ballou, East Providence, RI, sales agent for Ahrens-Fox New England office, Taunton, MA. Delivery photo #992. In service as Ladder 2.
1967: To Engine 1.
1970: Sold to an auto parts dealer in Pawtucket.
June 15, 1990: Ira A. Ballou Jr., told me at the Ahrens-Fox Fire Buffs’ Association 20th anniversary celebration (SPAAMFAA National muster, Lynnfield, MA) that the reason this rig had an enclosed body was to hide the kick-backs to the politicians. Like many municipalities in those Depression days, Pawtucket would not award the contract for fire engines unless the mayor and councilmen could make a little profit on the deal. Since Ahrens-Fox did not normally make enclosed-body rigs, nobody could be sure what the actual production cost of the extra sheet-metal was, so the kick-backs could be conveniently hidden in this price. In fact, Ballou says that the "X" in this model, and in earlier models such as M-X-4-X, indicated special features that deviated from standard specifications, usually to hide just such bribes and kick-backs in the final fire apparatus price.
November 22, 1937: Shipped to Louisville, KY. In service as Quad 8.
1950: To Auxiliary Quad 8.
1960s: Curt Nepper of Ahrens-Fox rebuilt with new Waukesha 145-GZB motor, new transmission, 1000-GPM Hale centrifugal pump.
July, 1978: Bill Hass photoed this rig, still in reserve at Louisville.
August, 1994: Vintage Truck & Fire Engine Monthly, page 44—2 Ahrens-Fox Quads [5063 and 8019], selling complete units as parts, $1,300 for both. Louis Fenchel, 454 Fox Lane, Lancaster, SC 29720 (803) 285-7627.
October 14, 1994: Owner is Louis Fenchel, Lancaster, SC. Surface rust, body cancer in dash-cowl area, no dents, no equipment, stored in Salem, IN (near KY border), for sale, $650. Motor is free, could be made to run easily. Fenchel bought #5063 and #8019 to save them from being scrapped, but does not want to spend the money to ship them to SC and restore them.
October 15, 1994: I will probably buy this rig, and Wendell Joost of Guerneville, CA, will buy #5063, possibly load both on a 90-foot railroad flatcar and ship them to California. Might have Bill Darrow take them to his farm at 530 Fairground Rd., Xenia, OH, and store them until we can arrange to ship them to CA. Bill still has the radiator from 1930 UP-100-4 #5042 which is the same as the radiator missing from #5063, and can also supply Seagrave trussed wood ground ladders for one or both of these quads.
October 20, 1994: Received photos of #5063 and 8019 from Louis Fenchel, and spoke to him on phone. Neither rig ever had a title or registration, but Fenchel can provide bill of sale to get them. #8019 has small sealed-beam headlights with turn signals atop, in place of original Corcoran-Brown type, right one missing lens, both tail lights intact. Front wheel of top booster reel missing, has both booster hose rollers. Tattered upholstery on driver’s seat. Surface rust except on radiator grille, body cancel in cowl. Windshield intact. Non-original L.F.D. lettering on hood (right shaded), QUAD No 9 and Louisville FD log on seat risers, QUAD No 9 on rear of frame. Side-view mirrors, front and side suction holders. Still has battery in box on left running board. Pump complete except suction & discharge blinder caps. Wire mesh equipment basket atop hose bed and ladder racks, has some red booster hose still in it. Diamond-plate catwalks beside ladder racks. No ladders or hose. A-F logo and trim strips on hood. No Registered No. plates.
November 5, 1994: Through John Bergquist, Loveland, CO (who has owned 153 antique fire engines to date, including Ahrens-Foxes #1215, 1664, 7018, and 1728), found Leon Hart of Auto Express in CO, phone 800-364-3084, who can truck this rig from Salem, IN, to San Jose, CA for me for $1,750. Basically, can have an intact, one-of-a-kind fire engine purchased & delivered for just $2,400, then restoration and storage costs.
November 9, 1994: I sent Louis Fenchel a letter (see Reg.#5063).
May 15, 1936: Tested at factory cistern from 3’ lift by E.H. Markle, Engineer, Ohio Inspection Bureau.
First Test, 6 hours. Two 25’ lines of 21/2” hose, 13/4” nozzle,
discharge gate throttled. 761 gpm @ 125.7 psi. Engine 1606 rpm, pump
3116 rpm. Second Test, 3 hours. 25’ line of 21/2” hose, 13/8” nozzle,
discharge gate throttled. 380 gpm @ 202.9 psi. Engine 1489 rpm, pump
1889 rpm.
Third Test, 3 hours. 25’ line of 21/2” hose, 1” nozzle, discharge gate
throttled. 256 gpm @ 253.8 psi. Engine 1537 rpm, pump 2982 rpm.
May 23, 1936: Shipped to Long Beach, CA. In service as Engine 1. Delivery photo #937.
March 2, 1937: Ordered by Salt Lake City, UT. Sale by Howard Cooper Corp., Portland, OR.
June 30, 1937: Tested at Ahrens-Fox factory from 4’6” lift by E.H. Markle and H.L. Krieger, Engineers, Ohio Inspection Bureau.
First Test, 6 hours. Two 50’ lines of 21/2” hose, 2” nozzle tip, gates
throttled. 1019 gpm @ 128 psi. Engine 1438 rpm, pump 3192 rpm.
Second Test, 3 hours. 50’ line of 21/2” hose, 13/8” nozzle tip, gates
throttled. 508 gpm @ 205 psi, Engine 1685 rpm, pump 3741 rpm (in
parallel). 512 gpm @208 psi, Engine 1282 rpm, pump 2946 rpm.
Third Test, 3 hours. 50’ line of 21/2” hose, 11/8” nozzle tip, gates
throttled. 341 gpm @ 257 psi, Engine 1337 rpm, pump 2968 rpm
July 15, 1937: Shipped to Salt Lake City, UT. In service as Engine 1. Delivery photo #977.
1959: Junked.
February 23, 1937: Ordered by Everett, WA. Sale by Howard Cooper Corp. Portland, OR.
June 8, 1937: Shipped to Everett, WA. In service as Quad 1.
1978: To Everett Firefighters Museum, Everett, WA.
1986: Motor replaced with another 1937 Hercules motor #321529.
1987: I photoed this rig at main Everett firehouse downtown. Enclosed sides on ladder racks, chain-driven hand cranks to roll ladders out of racks.
May 1, 1937: Ordered by Chester, PA.
Sept. 28, 1937: Shipped to Franklin Fire Co., Chester, PA. Sale by Charles E. Wood, Chester, PA. In service as Engine 2.
1956: Traded-in on new Mack pumper.
August, 1956: Ad in Fire Engineering magazine, page 708—FOR SALE, 1936 Ahrens-Fox with 750 GPM Hale 2-stage midship-mounted centrifugal pump. Mack Trucks, Inc., 2647 East York St., Philadelphia 25, PA.
Mack sold to PA State Fire Training School, Lewistown, PA.
1982: Sold to Firemen’s Museum, Erie, PA.
Model HC centrifugal pumper, hose car, and booster tank. 1861/2” wheelbase, 36” x 8” high-pressure tires.6-cylinder Hercules HXE special high-compression motor #321492, 53/4” x 6”, compression ratio 5.46 to 1, 203 brake horsepower @ 2000 rpm. Dual ignition: Auto-Lite battery, Bosch MJB-6 magneto, twelve 7/8” Champion spark plugs. Stromberg model SFG-5 updraft carburetor. Hale ZM 2-stage parallel series centrifugal pump, rated 1250 gpm at 120 psi, 625 gpm @ 200 psi, 417 gpm @ 250 psi, with Ahrens-Fox governor-type relief valve, vacuum pump, and booster pump. Engine to pump gear ratio. 1 to 2.22. 40-gallon gas tank at rear of driver’s seat, 18” above carburetor, with mechanical fuel pump. Brown-Lipe type 7440 clutch. Differential gear ratio 4.8 to 1. Transmission gear ratios: high 0.77 to 1, third 1.00 to 1, second 2.04 to 1, first 3.72 to 1, reverse 4.84 to 1, lever & plunger lock on gear shift, plunger lock on pump shift.
This rig was ordered at same time as model H-85 aerial #2065. For details of the bids and the contract for both rigs, see #2065.
Feb. 22, 1937: Letter from John P. Ahrens, vice president sales, Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., to Gordon H. Litchfield, sales representative, Pittsburgh, Pa. Cannot provide Akron with test results on 1000-gpm centrifugal pump from hydrant, because on recent test at Covington, KY, the fire hydrant failed to supply sufficient water. However, on factory test at draft from 4’ lift, pumped 1344 gpm @125 psi, 508 @200, 335 @350. When throttle opened wide, pumped 615 gpm @250 psi. For all tests, engine rpm never exceeded 1500, and usually in the 1300-1400 rpm range. Expect to have test results from hydrant soon.
March 10, 1937: Letter from G. McQuiggan, acting purchasing agent,
Akron, OH, to Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., enclosing specifications for
fire apparatus, bids to be opened 1:00 p.m. March 22, 1937.
“1250
gallon at 120# taking water from hydrant. 200 or more H.P. motor. Dual
tires rear—pneumatic. 1 spare rim. 250’ of 3/4” hose. Centrifugal pump.
1 flashing warning light. 2 axes. 1 lantern with red globe &
bracket, 2 plaster hooks (one 8’, one 6’). 1 hose shut-off & door
opener Pirsch. 1 set tire chains. One 3” hose leak stop. 1 Foamite foam
generator for F.D. service. 2 Style #1 Grether electric hand
searchlights. Three 3-way small hose siamese for 3/4” line (A.B. Co.).
1 McCaa 2-hour oxygen mask. One 21/2” Copper hose leak stop. One 12’
pony suction (White Anchor). 1 M&M siphon (P.B. Mfg. Co.). Parts
Book.”
March 15, 1937: List of extra equipment for Akron, Ohio, pumper provided by Gordon H. Litchfield, Ahrens-Fox Pittsburgh sales agent, to Carl J. Grome, Ahrens-Fox chief sales clerk.< BR> B&M siren, $45. Two extra rims, $48. Extra axe $7.50. Fire lantern with red globe, $12.50. Two plaster hooks, 8’ and 6’, $24. One hose shut-off & door opener (Pirsch), $22.50. Two chain tire grips for rear wheels, $15. 250’ of 3/4” hose (standard 150’ of 1”), $30 extra. One reducer 4” to 21/2”, $14. Three 3-way small hose siamese for 3/4” hose lines, $24. One McCaa oxygen mask (1/2 hour), $175. One Copper 21/2” hose leak stop, $45. One 12’ pony rubber suction hose, $30. Total for extras, $492.50, which was about $90 more than LaFrance & Seagrave. Added to $13,675 base price for 1000-gpm centrifugal pumper, this brought the bid price to $14,167.50.
No date: Final list of extras for Akron, OH, pumper.
1 spare
rim, $12. 250’ of 3/4” hose, $30. 1 MotoRay flashing warning light,
$7.50 (reduced from $35), 1 extra axe, $7.50. 1 lantern with red globe
& bracket, $12.50. 1 extra plaster hook, $18. 1 hose shut-off &
door opener (pirsch), $22.50. 1 set tire chains, normally $15, no
charge. One 3” hose leak stop (Akron), $8. 1 Foamite foam generator for
F.D. service, $285 (reduced from $475). 2 extra electric hand
searchlights, $33. Three 3-way small hose siamese for 3/4” hose lines,
$24. One McCaa oxygen mask (2 hour), $230. One Copper 21/2” hose leak
stop, $45. One 12’ pony rubber suction hose, $30. 1 M&M siphon
(P.B. Mfg. Co.), $90. Total of $1087.50 in extras to Akron for $855.
March 22, 1937: Bid proposal from Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co. to
Honorable City Purchasing Agent, Akron, Ohio, for one Model B-C triple
combination centrifugal pumping engine, hose car, and booster
equipment, built in accordance with specifications attached, for the
sum of $14,347, less 2% discount if two pieces of apparatus purchased,
less 5% for full cash payment on delivery. Delivery f.o.b. Akron, Ohio,
shipment within 60 to 90 working days after receipt of contract.
Proposal subject to withdrawal unless accepted within 15 days.
Proposal and price covered standard Ahrens-Fox 1000-gpm centrifugal
pumper, plus the following exceptional requirements: 1 spare rim, 250’
of 3/4” hose (instead of standard 150’ of 1”), flashing warning light,
extra axe, lantern with red globe & bracket, extra plaster hook,
hose shut-off & door opener, 1 set tire chains, 3” hose leak stop,
Foamite foam generator for F.D. service, two Grether #1 electric hand
searchlights, three 3-way small hose siamese for 3/4“ line, 1 McCaa
oxygen mask, one 21/2” Cooper hose leak stop, 12’ pony suction with
couplings, M&M siphon (P.B. Mfg. Co.).
Standard features included 2-stage centrifugal pump (1250 gpm @ 120
psi, 1000 gpm @160 psi, 1/2 capacity @200 psi, 1/3 capacity @250 psi),
two 6” x 10’ hard suctions, four 21/2” discharge gates, combination
primer/booster pump, 6-cylinder motor (1103 cubic inch, 6” bore x 61/2”
stroke, 220 bhp @1800 rpm, 86.4 hp NACC rating, dual overhead intake
& exhaust valves, 5-ring pistons, 14” connecting rods), magneto
& battery ignition systems, four-pole starter with Bendix drive.
Standard lighting: headlights, tail lights, search light, side cowl
flashers, rear hose pick-up lights, under-hood service light. 101/8”
channel frame, 5/16” thick. 3” semi-elliptic springs, 42” front, 50”
rear. Left-hand drive, Ross cam & lever gear. Timken worm-drive
full-floating rear axle. 4-wheel hydraulic brakes, 868 square inch
braking surface. 16” 4-shoe disk parking brake. 38 x 9 pneumatic or
9.75 x 20 balloon single tires, or 36 x 8 pneumatic or 9.00 x 20
balloon tires if single front & dual rear. 190” wheelbase. 19”
single-plate dry friction clutch. Transmission 3 speeds forward &
reverse, gear ratios 3.03 to 1, 1.62 to 1, 1.00 to 1, and 4.01 to 1 for
reverse. Rear axle ratio 4.00 to 1. Hose body capacity 1200’ of 21/2”
hose. Ladders 24’ rapid-hoist extension, 14’ roof with folding hooks.
10’ pike pole, 3’ crow bar, 6-pound pick-point fire axe, two electric
F.D. lanterns. Two 21/2-gallon extinguishers, one each soda-acid &
foam. 100-gallon booster tank, 150’ of 1” booster hose.
Alternative bid Model HC, same specifications & exceptional requirements, except motor 53/4” x 6”, 203 brake horsepower @ 2000 rpm. Certified check for $100 had to be attached to each bid submitted.
March 22, 1937: Bids for pumper, Akron, OH:
| Make | Price | Cash | Both Rigs |
| Ahrens-Fox BC 14,347 | 5% off | 2% off | |
| Ahrens-Fox HC 11,847 | 5% off | 2% off | |
| Seagrave | 14,450 | 5% off | 2% off |
| ALF | 14,550 | 5% off | 2% off |
| Mack type 21 | 14,800 | no discounts | |
| Pirsch 14-BM | 12,500 2% off | no discnt | |
| General 18C | 12,842 | no discounts | |
| Buffalo | 12,500 | 5% | no discnt |
March 26, 1937: Letter from Gordon H. Litchfield, Ahrens-Fox Pittsburgh sales agent, to Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Co., Cincinnati:
“I need something that looks like a pump test on our Model BC in my
work at Akron. Of course, we have no actual test report [since
Ahrens-Fox never actually built a Model BC], but will you please figure
out about what such a job would do & fill in the Engine to Pump
ratio that we would use, and also the Engine & Pump RPMs for the 4
tests shown on the attached form.
“Please shoot this back to me in a hurry. Better still, please type 3
copies on the blank forms enclosed. (I imagine your supply of forms
went “down the river.”) [Reference is to the Feb., 1937 Ohio River
flood that damaged the Ahrens-Fox factory.] You can then send 2 copies
back to me & keepthe other yourself, just in case.”
March 27, 1937: Letter from John P. Ahrens to Gordon H. Litchfield:
“We are in receipt of a Fire Bulletin giving us advance information
which indicates that our bid at Akron for the 1250 gallon pump was the
lowest which is $11,847. This is lower than any of our competitors.
While I remember speaking to you that our Model HC would meet these
requirements, nevertheless, I overlooked entirely that the Akron
requirements were for 1250 gallons at 125# pressure. This price you
must admit is extremely low, and if we should continue to make this
quotation it would jeopardize our standard 1250 gallon pumper. So in
the future we do not want to submit a bid again like the one we
submitted at Akron.
“Some changes will be made in our price list, as the material is
increasing in cost every day, and we must meet this increase. We are
working on this now and expect to have the revisions of our prices in
your hands within the next few days, but which is not to take effect
until April 15th.
“We are indeed sorry that we did submit such a low bid at Akron, but now that it is done, we will have to abide by same.”
March 28, 1937: Gordon H. Litchfield’s reply to John Ahrens’ March 27 letter:
“As things turned out, our bid here on our Model HCV might better have
been several hundred dollars higher, but beforehand, of course, there
was no telling what the competitive bids might be.
“Our HC bid was principally a protective bid against Mack, Pirsch,
Buffalo & General. I was particularly worried about Mack, who has a
local Branch in Akron & are usually strong there. Last Nov., you
may remember, they bid a net price of only $11,300 on their Model 21,
1000 gal. triple, & I expected they’d bid a similar figure this
time. Lord knows why they had the highest bid of all of $14,800 net,
unless they figure on spending plenty [in bribes/political favors] to
get an order.
“Anyway, Mr. Ahrens, I don’t believe you need worry particularly about
this HC bid of ours, be-cause if we get this pumper order, it will
doubtless be for our BC rather than our HC.”
March 29, 1937: Letter from Ahrens-Fox Engineering Dept. to Gordon H. Litchfield, about Akron Model BC:
“In answer to yours of the 26th, the engine to pump ratio will remain 1
to 2.22. On your last visit, we worked out a 1250-gallon test on a
Model HC and I have no record of same. Now rather than have one test on
the BC with lower engine & pump RPM and the next one higher than
the HC test sheet, subtract 20 to 25 Engine RPM on each test, and then
multiply these new specs by 2.22 for the new pump RPM.”
April 10, 1937: Ahrens-Fox Model HC pumper ordered by Akron, OH.
September 8, 1937: Tested at Ahrens-Fox factory, Cincinnati, OH, by
H.L. Krieger, Engineer, Ohio Inspection Bureau. 5’ lift on capacity
test, 3’ lift on pressure test.
First Test, 6 hours, three 50’
lines of 21/2” hose siamesed into nozzle with 21/4” tip, gates
throttled. 1275 gpm @ 126 psi. 1447 engine rpm, 3212 pump rpm.
Second Test, 3 hours, 100’ lines of 21/2” hose siamesed into nozzle
with 15/8” tip, gates throttled. 632 gpm @ 201 psi. 1331 engine rpm,
2955 pump rpm.
Third Test, 3 hours, 100’ lines of 21/2” hose siamesed into nozzle with
13/8” tip, pipe with throttled gate between hose lengths. 426 gpm @ 255
psi. 1343 engine rpm, 2981 pump rpm.
September 10, 1937: Shipped to Akron, OH. Sale by Gordon Litchfield, Pittsburgh, PA. In service as Engine 1.
1971: On my visit to Akron, they no longer had any Ahrens-Foxes. Did not know when this one was retired or when it went.
August 8, 1938: Shipped to Stamford, CT. Sale by Gordon Litchfield. Delivery photo #1025.
August 12, 1938: Tested at 10’ lift in Stamford, CT by Mr. Platt, National Board of Fire Underwriters.
First Test, three 100’ lines of 21/2” hose, 2” nozzle, 74 and 65 pitot. 1023 gpm @ 125 psi. Engine 1310 rpm.
Special Second Test, three 100’ lines of 21/2” hose, 11/8” nozzle, 100 pitot. 1340 gpm @ 130 psi. Engine 1500 rpm.
Third Test, 100’ line of 21/2” hose, 13/8” nozzle, 82 pitot. 507 gpm @ 200 psi. Engine 1218 rpm.
Fourth Test, 100’ line of 21/2” hose, 11/8” nozzle, 81 pitot. 335 gpm @ 255 psi. Engine 1286 rpm.
Special Fifth Test (for reserve capacity of pressure side), 100’ line
of 21/2” hose, 11/8” nozzle, 125 pitot. 418 gpm @ 400 psi. Engine 1680
rpm.
Special Sixth Test (for reserve capacity of volume side), six 100’
lines of 21/2” hose, 11/8” nozzles. Pitot readings 52, 51, 65, 74, 64,
and 74 psi at nozzles. 1783 gpm @ 105 psi (individual streams 268, 270,
302, 322, 299, and 322 gpm). Motor 1340 rpm. Hydrant pressure 70 psi.
1967: To reserve.
September, 1973: My father and I photoed this rig at Stamford, CT. It was still in reserve. Original motor had been replaced 6 or 7 years earlier. Had been in original paint (including Indian head log on cab doors) until repainted about 1971.
July 20, 1974: While at the New York City antique fire engine show, I learned that Stamford recently sold #9051 to O.B. Maxwell, a Maxim fire apparatus salesman in Hamden, CT.
September 14, 1938: Shipped to Hampton, VA. Delivery photo #1026.
1981: Hampton still owns.
December 6, 1938: Delivered to Cincinnati, OH. Delivery photo #1034 (shows 9055-6-7 lined-up). In service as Engine 38.
1960s: Sold to Point Pleasant, KY.
circa-1970: Sold to Clay City, KY.
1981: Still in service at Clay City, KY.
December 6, 1938: Delivered to Cincinnati, OH. Delivery photo #1034 (shows 9055-6-7 lined-up). In service as Engine 37.
To Engine 7.
1960s: Sold to Point Pleasant, KY.
May, 1980: Sold for $3,000 to Dale Moone, Holley, NY.
June 19, 1980: At Point Pleasant firehouse, new owner Dale Moone, Scott Warthman of Brockport, NY (1916 M-2 #811), Ed Hass of Plainfield, NJ (1953 EC #9160), and Ahrens-Fox Co. owner Curt Nepper removed old #6 cylinder, which had spun a bearing and slightly scored the crankshaft. New piston and rod installed out of Ahrens-Fox parts stock, so Dale Moone could drive #9056 home from KY to NY. Chief at Point Pleasant is Bernard J. “Bernie” Marshall, 3618 O’Hara Rd., Erlanger, KY, phone 371-7302. Firehouse phone 283-2798
August 13, 1988: One of 4 Ahrens-Foxes at SPAAMFAA National muster, Rochester, NY.
December 6, 1938: Delivered to Cincinnati, OH. Delivery photo #1034 (shows 9055-6-7 lined-up). In service as Engine 49.
1960s: Sold to Lischkge Motors, Aurora, IN.
1976: Sold to Bill Clark, Cincinnati, OH.
1980: To junkyard, New Baltimore, OH. Rough, rusty, no front grille.
Model HC centrifugal pumper, hose car, and booster tank. 6-cylinder Hercules HXE motor, 53/4” x 6”.
January 27, 1939: Shipped to Quincy, IL. In service as Engine 2. Named Leo M. Leman. Delivery photo #1039. Sale by Robert R. Johnson, Peoria, IL.
January 27, 1939: Shipped to Quincy, IL. In service as Engine 3. Named George W. Simon. Sale by Robert R. Johnson, Peoria, IL.
August, 1986: For sale. 1939 HC centrifugal pumper #9068, original owner, recently retired. Still fully-equipped and operable, original paint, one-of-a-kind hose body. Make offer. Chief James E. Doellman, Quincy Fire Dept., 906 Vermont, Quincy, Ill. 62301, phone (217) 228-4459.
Hale ZMHD 2-stage centrifugal pump #11626, rated 750 gpm @ 150 psi, 525 @ 200, 375 @ 250. Engine-to-pump gear ratio 1 to 2.22. Two 5” x 10’ hard suction hoses, one on each side. 24’ extension and 14’ roof ladder on right side, 16’ extension ladder on left. 10’ plaster pole above left suction, 11/8” crow bar, pick-point fire axe. One each Foamcrest and Seotoo extinguishers. Two Carpenter J-24 electric hand lamps. 150’ of 1” booster hose, rear reel.
June 3, 1946: Ahrens-Fox construction list.
August 24, 1948: Certified by George W. Booth, Chief Engineer,
National Board of Fire Underwriters, as able to meet the following
performance criteria. This certification given without actually testing
this rig, based on previous performance records of this rig and similar
rigs.
First Test, in Parallel. 750 gpm @ 150 psi. Engine 1384 rpm, pump 3072 rpm.
Second Test, in Series. 525 gpm @ 200 psi. Engine 1220 rpm, pump 2708 rpm.
Third Test, in Series. 375 gpm @ 250 psi. Engine 1270 rpm, pump 250 rpm
September 27, 1948: Shipped to Salt Lake City, UT. Sale by R.K. LeBlond. Delivery photo #3048. In service as Engine 5.
circa-1972: To Spare.
July, 1978: My father photoed this rig. Stored at Fire Station 14 (drill tower).
1984: Junked.
Model HC centrifugal pumper, hose car, and 150-gallon booster tank with 70”-wide two-door (3 man) semi cab, real leather upholstery. 6-cylinder Hercules HXE motor #347211, 53/4” x 6”, 238 bhp @ 2100 rpm, 6.4 to 1 compression ratio. 12-volt electric system, positive ground; Auto-Lite MR-4108 starter, GEH-5001-P2 generator #AO-19907, CM-4007 coil, and IGC-4064 distributor; Stewart-Warner 659-K distributor drive; American Bosch MJA-6C-106 magneto with ICB-2A-20 40o impeller coupling; Willard 12-volt DRG-15-6Z battery. 18-mm Champion #8 spark plugs. 13/4” Zenith model 29-W-14 carburetor. Two fuel pumps, AC #1522208 and Auto-Pulse 521-D Duplex electric. Spicer-BL #7840 transmission, 14” Spicer 2-plate clutch. BK #D-64 release power cylinder with #370472 valve. Timken axles, 26452-H front #C308153, Q-100-DPM rear #B-169521 (52/7 to 1 rear axle ratio). 10-stud Budd #32742-5 steel disk wheels, 10.00 x 20 tires, single front, dual rear. Lockheed brakes, 171/4” x 3” front, 161/2” x 5” rear, 13/4” Wagner FF2980 master cylinder, BK #374229 hydrovac. Mather semi-elliptic springs, 3” x 48” front (3000 pound), 3” x 56” rear (5000 pound). Ross TA-71 steering, 22” steering wheel. Hosebed 66” wide, capacity 2000’ of 21/2” hose, single partition in center, two 21/2” suction inlets art rear. Rear reel with 200’ of 3/4” booster hose and Rockwood SG-40 fog/straight-stream nozzle. Inner body compartments on each side for 150’ of 11/2” hose. Dietz 6009-P spotlights on both sides of cowl; two Guide 528-F cowl lights; two Dietz 709 rear hose pickup lights; two Guide 492-V tail lights; chrome-plated Federal 77 siren with flasher light. Two American Bosch 12-volt electric windshield wipers. Battery charging plug left rear of hosebed. Duo-Safety 525-A aluminum 3-section 35’ extension ladder and 14’ roof ladder on right, 10’ plaster pole, two 6” x 10’ hard suctions, and two 21/2” x 10’ hard suctions on left. 11/8” crow bar, pick-point fire axe, two Carpenter WS Master electric hand lamps. One each 21/2-gallon pump can and DuGas T-30 chemical extinguishers. Peerless 21/2” hose clamp. Two 3” x 20’ soft suction hoses.
Hale ZMHD 2-stage series-parallel centrifugal pump #11973, 101/2” impeller, 2.22 to 1 gear ratio, rated 1000 gpm @ 120 psi.
October 24, 1946: Ordered by Boise, ID. Sale by R.K. LeBlond.
February 9, 1947: Letter from D.D. Peters, District Manager, Universal Safety Appliance Co., to Ahrens-Fox. Changing type of Akron nozzles to furnish (no longer want style 400). Mr. Niederheldem wrote to Akron Brass on March 12, to change the order. Now to be two Akron style 409 deck gun asemblies of style 414, easch assembly to have one 3/4”, one 7/8”, and one 1” beaded tips, and style 422 direct connection base with rocker lug couplings.
May 17, 1947: Ahrens-Fox construction list.
December 4, 1947: Shipped to Boise, ID. In service as Engine 5.
1977: Traded-in on new American LaFrance pumper to John Howell, Boise, ID.
July 13, 1946: Ordered by River Rouge, MI.
December 16, 1947: Was to be shipped to River Rouge, MI.
December 3, 1948: Ahrens-Fox construction list. Last engineering change order appended to this list dated Feb. 8, 1949, so this rig was obviously not shipped to River Rouge until at least late Feb., 1949, not Dec. 1947 as promised. Chief was Philip L. Goneia.
1974: Out of service.
1982: Sold for $4,000 to Dennis A. Allenbaugh, 334 Goodell St., River Rouge, MI 48218.
1987: Owner is Dennis A. Allenbaugh, P.O. Box 6246, Lincoln Park, MI 48146.
July 17, 1946: Ordered by Live Oak Engine Co. #1, Elmsford, NY.
September 16, 1948: Shipped to Live Oak Engine Co. #1, Elmsford, NY. Price $12,987 plus $175 trade-in of 1923 R-K-4 #1143 (which Griesser sold for $875 to Clifton Heights, PA). Sale by Frank Griesser, Bogota, NJ.
October 4, 1948: Delivered to Elmsford, NY.
October 23, 1948: Griesser received payment in full from Elmsford, NY.
June 23, 1973: One of 18 Ahrens-Foxes at Fairchester Hose Haulers muster, Kensico Dam, Valhalla, NY.
1980: Sold.
1991: Owner is Mike Kelleher, 39 Belleview Drive, Derby, CT 06418.
2002: For sale as parts rig, by Bob Sullivan, Haverstaraw, NY.
May 23, 1946: Bid proposal from Frank X. Griesser, representative, Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Corp., to Friendship Fire Co. #2, Royersford, PA, for one Ahrens-Fox Model H-C Special 1000 Gallon per Minute, Centrifugal type, triple combination pumper, Hose Car, and Booster Apparatus. Price $16,670.28, of which $4,000 to be paid upon acceptance of this contract, and $12,670.28 to be paid within 30 days after delivery & acceptance of apparatus. Delivery f.o.b. Royersford, PA. Shipment from factory within 200 working days after receipt of contract.
May 31, 1946: Ordered by Friendship Fire Co. #2, Royersford, PA. Contract signed by John H. Keiter, President, and Thomas W. Thompson, Secretary. Also signed by Frank X. Griesser for Ahrens-Fox.
August, 1946: Contract accepted by R.N. Smith, vice president, Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Corp.
June 8, 1950: Tested from 12’ lift at Pigeon Creek, near Parkerford,
by R.P. Wentzel, Engineer, Middle Department Association of Fire
Underwriters, 401 Walnut St., Philadelphia 6, PA.
First Test, 2
hours. Two 50’ lines of 21/2” hose, 13/4” and 11/4” nozzles, throttled.
1000 gpm @ 159 psi. Engine 1471 rpm, pump 3266 rpm.
Second Test, 30 minutes. 50’ line of 21/2” hose, 13/4” nozzle, throttled. 704 gpm @ 206 psi. Engine 1664 rpm, pump 3694 rpm.
Third Test, 30 minutes. 50’ line of 21/2” hose,
11/4” nozzle, throttled. 514 gpm @ 2596 psi. Engine 1385 rpm, pump 2074 rpm.
June 10, 1950: Delivered to Friendship Fire Co. #2, Royersford, PA. Price $16.958.80.
July 20, 1950: Griesser received payment in full from Royersford, PA.
1966: Sold to Soddy-Daisy, TN.
November 30, 1974: Dr. Thomas H. Scott, 26 Montclair Rd., Oak Ridge, TN 37820, writes that #9109 is sitting outdoors behind Soddy-Daisy city hall.
1982: Repowered with GM diesel motor.
April 27, 1948: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 6. Delivery photos #3032 & 3033.
April, 1953: Fire Engineering magazine, page 282 (also September, 1953 page 710; August, 1954 page 636; December, 1954 page 1110; February, 1955; September, 1955 page 813; October, 1955 page 971; February, 1956, page 113; and June, 1956, page 473)—Photo of a 1948 Ahrens-Fox IC SPECIAL of Dallas, TX in Waukesha motors ad.
To Spare Engine 7.
November, 1975: Sold to ARO Company, Dallas, TX.
Sept.-Oct., 1979: Firehouse magazine—For Sale. 9 good working fire engines, 500-1,000 GPM. Write ARO, 9816 Angora, Dallas, Texas 75218.
June 9, 1948: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 9.
December, 1956: Fire Engineering magazine, page 1157—Show 4 Ahrens-Fox centrifugal pumpers at a fire in Dallas, TX. Three of these were Engines 9 (#9119), 1 (#9154), and 35 (#9156), fourth one unidentified.
To Spare Engine 16.
November, 1975: Sold to ARO Company, Dallas, TX (see Reg. #9118).
June 21, 1948: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 11.
To Spare Engine 23.
November, 1975: Sold to ARO Company, Dallas, TX (see Reg. #9118).
May 20, 1948: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 14.
To Spare Engine 35.
November, 1975: Sold to ARO Company, Dallas, TX (see Reg. #9118).
June 17, 1948: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 17.
To Spare Engine 48.
November, 1975: Sold to ARO Company, Dallas, TX (see Reg. #9118).
July 30, 1948: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 29.
To Spare Engine 49.
November, 1975: Sold to ARO Company, Dallas, TX (see Reg. #9118).
July 28, 1948: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 34.
December 10, 1948: Letter from Waukesha Motor C. Waukesha, Wis., to A.W. Dodd, Service Dept., Waukesha Sales & Service, Inc., Houston 10, TX, copy sent to R.C. Nepper, Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Corp. They wanted to install governors on Waukesha 145-GZB motors of Dallas Fire Dept., to limit top operating speed of their Ahrens-Fox pumpers to 2200-2400 rpm. Such a governor was not available because of the dual-carburetor intake manifold setup on these motors. This type of manifold was originally developed for Allis-Chalmers for their large earth movers, and the only way to install a governor for the earth-movers was to mount the governor at the front of the engine in place of the magneto. Because the fire engines already have a magneto, cannot add a governor as they did for the earth-movers. “This governor had a lever extending horizontally with a rod going vertically to a loose floating lever on the front carburetor to provide the governor control. At the rear carburetor was another loose floating lever, so that the throttle could operate the carburetors, but at the same time the governor could override the wide-open throttle position to limit top speed.” Waukesha drawing #044140 shows the dual carburetors, but not the governor.
To Spare Engine 54.
July, 1973: Bill Hass (my father) photoed #9124 at Dallas Fire Dept. repair shop, stripped & rusty, it was being dismantled for spare parts.
1949: Shipped to West Lafayette, IN.
1978: Sold for $1,800 to John R. Gambs, partner in law firm Heide, Gambs & Mucker, 214 First Federal Bldg., Lafayette, IN 47901.
March 17, 1980: I received latter of March 11 from John Gambs, stating that he traded #9136 to a Mercury auto dealer in Minneapolis, MN, for 1924 N-S-4 #1620.
April 2, 1983: Jack Mersereau, Coon Rapids, MN, writes “HC 9136, I understand has been sold in the last year or so, after sitting in a car dealer’s garage in Minneapolis for a number of years. He died and the engine is gone, but nobody seems to know where.”
August, 1984; Sold back to John R. Gambs, 214 First Federal Bldg., Lafayette, IN 47901.
1986: Gambs address is 10 North 4th St., P.O. Box 1608, Lafayette, IN 47902, phone (317) 423-1001.
1949: Delivered to Covington, KY. In service as Engine 1.
To Engine 6.
1970: Repowered by Cummins diesel motor. To Engine 5.
July, 1971: My father & I photoed this rig at Covington, it was a spare at Engine 5.
1980: Traded-in on new Seagrave pumper to Ohio Valley Seagrave, Cincinnati, OH.
1949: Shipped to South Portland, ME. In service as Engine 6. Sale by Ira A. Ballou Jr., East Providence, RI, Ahrens-Fox New England sales agent.
December, 1955: Fire Engineering magazine, page 1194—Photo of this rig at South Portland, ME.
1972: Sold to The Bargain Outlet, Chelsea, ME, per July 26, 1973 letter from Chief Phillip McGouldrick of South Portland.
1990: Andy Swift, Jonesport, ME, says this is still at The Bargain Outlet, very rough shape, rust and body cancer, stripped, probably good only for parts if that.
November 9, 1948: Ordered by Glen Cove, NY.
July 11, 1949 [This date is suspect]: Shipped to Glen Cove, NY. In service as Engine 4. Sale by Frank Griesser, Bogota, NJ. Price $18,680.49, plus $1,300 trade-in of old apparatus (which was stripped for parts).
July 26, 1949: Into paint shop.
August 10, 1949: Painting completed.
August 15, 1949: Shipped from factory. [The above 3 dates contradict the July 11 shipping date to Glen Cove].
November 29, 1949: Griesser received payment in full from Glen Cove, NY.
1973: Sold to Frank Dobson, 74 Sea Cliff Ave., Glen Cove, NY, phone 676-3390.
1986: Cut-up. Small piece from top of grille was all that remained, given back to Glen Cove, then to Herby Barber Jr., Franklin Square, NY.
January 2, 1949: Ordered by Frederick, MD.
September 1, 1949: Into paint shop.
Sept. 15, 1949: Painting completed.
Sept. 21, 1949: Shipped from factory.
October 7, 1949: Tested from 7’ lift at factory by Joseph Fearing, reported by Carl F. Doering. Fair weather, temperature 64o.
First Test, 2 hours, in Parallel. Two 50’ lines of 21/2” hose, 11/2”
nozzle, pitot 58 and 60. 1025 gpm @ 150 psi. Engine 1466 rpm.
Second Test, 30 minutes, in Series. Two 50’ lines of 21/2” hose, 11/4”
nozzle, pitot 58 and 62. 714 gpm @ 205 psi. Engine 1332 rpm.
Third Test, 30 minutes, in Series. 50’ line of
21/2” hose, 11/2” nozzle. 517 gpm @ 250 psi. Engine 1336 rpm.
November 12, 1949: Delivered to Junior Fire Co. #2, Frederick, MD. Sale by Frank Griesser, Bogota, NJ. Price $23,363.30.
November 29, 1949: Griesser received payment in full from Frederick, MD.
April, 1973: Sold for $3,000 to Bernard “Buck” Gladhill, Damascus, MD.
1978: Sold back to Junior Fire Co. #2, Frederick, MD.
Feb. 25, 1950: Bids opened 12:00 noon at Municipal Building, Mount Healthy, OH. Their specifications called for 6-cylinder overhead valve gasoline motor, four-stroke, 7-bearing crankshaft, not less than 750 cubic inch, not less than 230 bhp @2500 rpm, able to deliver 750 gpm @150 psi at not more than 80% of peak engine speed, running on gasoline of 75 octane or less. Also 525 gpm @200 psi, 375 @250. Cooling system to maintain water temperature not more than 100o above atmospheric temperature. Dual ignition (battery and magneto), 12 volt generator rated not less than 100 amperes, with regulator and rectifier. Fuel tank not less than 40 gallons. Two-stage centrifugal fire pump, capable of lifting and discharging water 18 feet in 45 seconds or less from dry pump, with two 5” suction inlets, one 21/2” gated front suction inlet, three 21/2” discharge outlets, two rear 11/2” discharge outlets. Chassis frame with 8 cross-members, wheelbase not to exceed 252”, front and rear towing hooks, four-wheel hydraulic brakes. Ventilated steel disk wheels, single front, dual rear, puncture-proof front tire tubes, front & rear wheels interchangeable. Three-man all-steel semi-cab, durable upholstery, adjustable seat. Hose body capacity 1000’ of 21/2” hose, with canvas cover. Lights: two sealed-beam headlights, two front parking/flashing lights with red lenses, two spotlights, two stop/tail lights, two inner-control spotlights, compartment lights, ignition switch pilot light, under-hood light, pump gauge lights. Compartment for 1500-watt portable light plant. 200-gallon booster tank, two reels of 200’ each of 1” booster hose, 1” fog/stream nozzle on each reel. Two 41/2” x 10’ and two 21/2” x 10’ hard suction hoses. 4 axes, 2 electric hand lanterns, one each 15-pound CO2, 20-pound dry chemical, and 1/2-gallon CTC extinguishers, two steel crow bars, 1 door opener, 1 tin roof cutter, 1 each flat and scoop shovels, 1 wire cutter with insulated handles. 2 each 8’, 10’, and 14’ pike poles. 2 wall picks, 2 D-handle forks. Duo-Safety aluminum ladders: two 525-A 50’ 3-section extension, one 500-A 35’ 2-section extension, one 700-A 30’ 2-section extension, one 550-A 20’ wall, one each 775-A 18’, 16’, and 14’ roof, one 585-A 10’ folding. 4-hour factory test before shipment, and acceptance test by National Board of Fire Underwriters within 10 days after delivery. 20-mile road test at speed not more than 35 m.p.h., test duration not to exceed 1 hour.
November, 1950: Delivered to Mount Healthy, OH. In service as Engine 3.
August 1, 1982: One of 24 Ahrens-Foxes at Ahrens-Fox Co. 130th Anniversary muster, Cincinnati, OH.
June 2, 1988: Sold for $15,000 to W. Kenneth Menke, Jr., 415 Park Ave., Glendale, MO 63122, (314) 822-2029 or 822-7872. 5716 original miles. 90-point (out of 100) original condition.
October 7, 1989: One of 5 Ahrens-Foxes at Firehouse Magazine muster, St. Louis, MO.
February 6, 1952: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 1.
December, 1956: Fire Engineering magazine, page 1157—Shows 4 Dallas pumpers in tandem, including two 1952 Ahrens-Foxes. Engine 35 (#9156) at left with chrome bumper, Engine 1 (#9154) at right with painted bumper. Also Engine 9 (#9119), fourth one unidentified.
To Spare Engine 38.
August 16, 1972: To Spare Engine 27.
1977: Sold.
February 6, 1952: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 10.
To Spare Engine 44.
August 16, 1972: To Spare Engine 39.
1977: Sold.
February 6, 1952: Shipped to Dallas, TX. In service as Engine 35.
To Spare Engine 35.
August 16, 1972: To Spare Engine 22.
1977: Sold.
June 11, 1954: Delivered to Silverton, OH. Mayor W.F. Carmicahel, Police Chief John Kuhnell, Fire Chief Lou Silver. In service as Engine 1. Price $21,305.75.
June 19, 1954: Tested from 12’ lift at reservoir in Eden Park,
Cincinnati, OH, by W.S. Thompson, Ohio Inspection Bureau, Columbus, OH,
and Carl F. Doering of Ahrens-Fox.
First Test, 2 hours (1:00 to
3:00 pm). Two 50’ lines of 21/2” hose, 13/4” nozzle, throttled. 768 gpm
@ 153.2 psi. Engine 1650 rpm. Vacuum 13.5”.
Second Test, 30 minutes (3:00 to 3:30 pm). 50’ line of 21/2” hose,
11/2” nozzle, throttled. 528 gpm @ 202.3 psi. Engine 1520 rpm. Vacuum
12.5”.
Third Test, 30 minutes (3:00 to 3:30 pm). 50’ line of 21/2” hose, 11/4”
nozzle, throttled. 383 gpm @ 254 psi. Engine 1523 rpm. Vacuum 12.0”.
Special Flash Test. 881 gpm @ 150 psi. Engine 1710 rpm. Ran away from water, governor shut-off 10-pound surge.
August 27, 1954: Letter from Curt Nepper, Ahrens-Fox, Inc., Cincinnati 14, OH, phone PArkway 6649, to Frank X. Griesser, 416 Palisade Ave., Bogota, NJ. Only Curt Nepper & George Asmus left to carry on at Cincinnati. “Have requested Chief Silvers of Silverton to get several copies of the photographs on their engine and will forward same [to you] just as soon as they are received.
February, 1976: Fire Engineering magazine page 52 (also Fire Chief magazine page 47)—For Sale, 1954 Ahrens-Fox 750 GPM quad; open cab. Full compliment trussed ground ladders. Electric booster reels with 200 ft. hose, each reel.300 gal. tank. Dual ignition. 5700 combined pump and road miles. Excellent condition. Sealed bids, minimum $5,000, will be opened on April 14, 1976 at 12:00 noon. Address bids to clerks office, City of Silverton, 6860 Plainfield Rd., Silverton, Ohio 45236. The city reserves the right to reject any or all bids.
April 14, 1976: High bidder at auction was George Spencer, Chattanooga, TN. He told them that they would always regret selling #9157, and persuaded them to keep it rather than sell it to him.
August 1, 1982: One of 24 Ahrens-Foxes at Ahrens-Fox Co. 130th Anniversary muster, Cincinnati, OH.
July 30, 1983: Silverton had this rig at Cincinnati muster, won fastest water centrifugal (24 seconds).
August 9, 1986: One of 7Ahrens-Foxes at Morrow, OH, muster. Won Quick Alarm competition.
October 14, 1994: Owner is Louis Fenchel, Lancaster, SC. In June, Fenchel had Curt Nepper of Ahrens-Fox drive it out of the Silverton firehouse for the last time, almost exactly 40 years to the day after Curt backed it into Silverton firehouse for the first time upon delivery.
1953: Delivered to North College Hill., OH. In service as Engine 5.
Nov. 27, 1954: Letter from R.C. Nepper, Ahrens-Fox Inc., to James Beck, C.D. Beck & Co. Inc., N. Main Ave. & Russell Rd., Sidney, OH. “If you have any additional paint for the North College Hill engine, please save it, as we will need considerably more than the pint furnished with the engine. As you know, this was a special color Dupont synthetic enamel #93-659-H Glenbrook Red.”
July 28, 1975: Still in service. Odometer 108415 miles.
July 29, 1978: One of 4 Ahrens-Foxes at Miles Greenwood Historical Fire Apparatus Society muster, Morrow, OH. Won Best Appearing Apparatus.
August 1, 1982: One of 24 Ahrens-Foxes at Ahrens-Fox Co. 130th Anniversary muster, Cincinnati, OH.
August 9, 1986: One of 7Ahrens-Foxes at Morrow, OH, muster. Still in service.
August 8, 1987: One of 5 Ahrens-Foxes at Morrow, OH, muster.
April 22, 1953: Bid proposal from Frank X. Griesser, Representative, Ahrens-Fox, Inc., to Borough of Paramus, NJ, for one Ahrens-Fox, custom built Model IC Special, 750 GPM, Triple Combination Pumper, Hose Car and Booster Apparatus. Shipment to be made during the month of November, 1953, for the sum of $18,000. Delivery overland f.o.b. Paramus, NJ. Proposal subject to withdrawal unless accepted by May 13, 1953.
May 13, 1953: Ordered by Paramus, NJ.
July 29, 1954: Tested from 6’ lift by Joe Fearing at Port Jefferson, OH.
First Test, 2 hours, in Parallel. Two 50’ lines of
21/2” hose, 13/4” nozzle, 70 pitot. 761 gpm @ 155 psi. Motor 1688 rpm.
Second Test,30 minutes, in Series. 50’ line of
21/2” hose, 11/2” nozzle, 64 pitot. 533 gpm @ 200 psi. Motor 1528 rpm.
Third Test,30 minutes, in Series. 50’ line of
21/2” hose, 11/4” nozzle, 68 pitot. 381 gpm @ 250 psi. Motor 1558 rpm.
August 27, 1954: Letter from Curt Nepper, Ahrens-Fox, Inc., Cincinnati 14, OH, phone PArkway 6649, to Frank X. Griesser, 416 Palisade Ave., Bogota, NJ. Only Curt Nepper & George Asmus left to carry on at Cincinnati. They just sent missing parts and equipment to install on EC #9166 for Cumberland, MD, and “will try to clean up the back ordered items on Paramus next.”
September 10, 1954: Shipped to Spring Valley Fire Co. #2, Paramus, NJ. Price $18,000. Sale by Frank Griesser, Bogota, NJ.
September 10, 1954: Delivered to Paramus, NJ.
September 24, 1954: Griesser received payment in full from Paramus, NJ.
1970: Loaned to Engine 1, Paramus.
1972: Returned to Spring Valley #2, Paramus.
1979: Still in service at Spring Valley #2, Paramus, NJ 07652. Chief Ed McCabe.
1983: Still owned by Spring Valley Fire Co. #2, c/o Chief Edward K. McCabe, 172 Fairview Ave., Paramus, NJ 07652.
June, 1987: Sold for $2,000 to Harold Price, North Haledon, NJ.
October 1, 1988: At Montgomery, NY, muster. Owner Harold Price, North Haledon, NJ. For sale, $5,000.
December 28, 1953: Bid proposal from Frank X. Griesser, Representative, Ahrens-Fox, Inc,.to Township of Saddle River, NJ, for one Ahrens-Fox Model I-C, custom-built, 750 GPM, triple combination pumper, hose car, and booster apparatus. Shipment within 180 working days after receipt of contract. Shipment f.o.b. Township of Saddle River, NJ, for $20,000. Proposal subject to withdrawal unless accepted within 30 days.
January 25, 1954: Contract signed by Walter J. Ochance, mayor, and Joseph Gardiner, township clerk.
January 30, 1954: Contract accepted by Ahrens-Fox.
September 15, 1955: Delivered to Saddle River Township, NJ. In service as Engine 1.
September 21, 1955: Tested from 6’ lift at Saddle River, NJ, by
Richard L. Twiss, Fire Insurance Rating Organization of NJ, 31 Clinton
St., Newark, NJ.
First Test, 2 hours, in Parallel. Two 50’ lines of
21/2” hose, siamesed to playpipe with 13/4” tip, discharge gates
throttled. 750 gpm @ 158 psi. Engine 1665 rpm, pump 3230 rpm.
Special Spurt Test: 954 gpm @ 156 psi. Engine 1850 rpm.
Second Test, 30 minutes, in Series. 50’ line of
21/2” hose, to playpipe with 13/8” tip, discharge gate throttled. 528 gpm @ 207 psi. Engine 1470 rpm, pump 2822 rpm.
Third Test, 30 minutes, in Series. 50’ line of
21/2” hose, to playpipe with 11/4” tip, discharge gate throttled. 378 gpm @ 254 psi. Engine 1490 rpm, pump 2891 rpm.
October 22, 1955: Griesser received payment in full from Saddle River Township, NJ.
1962: Town renamed Saddle Brook.
1970: To Engine 3.
1972: My father & I photoed this rig at Engine 3, Saddle Brook, NJ 07662.
1974: To Passaic Truck Sales, Saddle Brook, NJ.
1979: Sold for $1,000 to private owner, Middletown, NY.
December 28, 1953: Bid proposal from Frank X. Griesser, Representative, Ahrens-Fox, Inc,.to Township of Saddle River, NJ, for one Ahrens-Fox Model I-C, custom-built, 750 GPM, triple combination pumper, hose car, and booster apparatus with semi-cab. Shipment within 180 working days after receipt of contract. Shipment f.o.b. Township of Saddle River, NJ, for $20,000. Proposal subject to withdrawal unless accepted within 30 days.
January 25, 1954: Contract signed by Walter J. Ochance, mayor, and Joseph Gardiner, township clerk.
January 30, 1954: Contract accepted by Ahrens-Fox.
September 30, 1955: Shipped to Saddle River Township, NJ. In service as Engine 2. Sale by Frank Griesser, Bogota, NJ. Price $20,000.
October 4, 1955: Tested from 6’ lift at Saddle River, NJ, by Richard
L. Twiss, Fire Insurance Rating Organization of NJ, 31 Clinton St.,
Newark, NJ.
First Test, 2 hours, in Parallel. Two 50’ lines of
21/2” hose, siamesed to playpipe with 13/4” tip, discharge gates
throttled. 750 gpm @ 158 psi. Engine 1680 rpm, pump 3259 rpm.
Special Spurt Test: 954 gpm @ 156 psi. Engine 1800 rpm.
Second Test, 30 minutes, in Series. 50’ line of
21/2” hose, to playpipe with 13/8” tip, discharge gate throttled. 525 gpm @ 205 psi. Engine 1470 rpm, pump 2852 rpm.
Third Test, 30 minutes, in Series. 50’ line of
21/2” hose, to playpipe with 11/4” tip, discharge gate throttled. 381 gpm @ 254 psi. Engine 1500 rpm, pump 2910 rpm.
October 31, 1955: Griesser received payment in full from Saddle River Township, NJ.
1962: Town renamed Saddle Brook.
1970: To Engine 4.
1972: My father & I photoed this rig at Engine 4, Saddle Brook, NJ 07662.
1978: Still in service. Chief is Howard Mulder.
September, 1955: Shipped to South Fayette Volunteer Firemen’s Association #2, Cuddy, PA.
1981: Still in service.