Salem fire chief on OT: ‘I don’t get it’Finance panel reviews city budget, line by line
By LARRY SHIELDS on the Salem News Net Web Site on 3/18/2010
SALEM - Fire Chief Jeff Hughes pressed for answers to his overtime problem while Auditor Jim Armeni said he hoped "we don't have to cut more" during finance committee budget talks Wednesday morning.
The committee spent two hours reviewing and questioning line items, line by line on department budgets.
Hughes said there were figures showing his budget increased, but said, "I actually cut $120,000 and also cut training and conferences to a minimum."
Councilman Dave Nestic said, "It was obvious you made cuts."
The general fund budget, based on an estimated $3.7 million in revenues, was originally submitted with about $129,000 in red ink. A second submission on Feb. 4 had it at about $46,900 in the red and on Wednesday, with lay-offs and unemployment numbers figured in, it was about $201,806 in the black with ongoing adjustments.
Hughes pointed out that during Tuesday's council meeting Treasurer Robert A. Tullis reported income numbers even with 2009, recovering a substantial lag.
With an up-to-the minute income tax statement, Tullis said the year-to-day receipts for 2009 were $814,019 while this year stood at $814,888 as of Tuesday.
Regarding the fire department overtime, Armeni said he budgeted $120,000 for it and asked Hughes, "Do you think that'll be enough?"
Hughes responded, "No."
Hughes has repeatedly stated fire department overtime will be about $175,000 while he has been told the lay offs will save $98,000.
"How do you justify keeping people laid off?" he asked.
"Will someone give me an answer? I don't get it."
Armeni said this year "probably" won't produce a lot of savings with the four-minimum requirement.
Regarding the layoffs, which included three police officers, the police secretary, one part-time housing inspector; and two street department employees who will retire early and not be replaced, Armeni said, "I don't think the mayor had any other way to go ... "
Hughes said the four-man minimum (contracted for) was a safety issue and Armeni said the bargaining units had to agree to "substantial concessions."
"That's my view," he said, "I just hope were don't have to cut more."
Committee Chairman Bret Apple pointed out that Hughes' "high (end) overtime estimate was $150,000" and last year it was $100,000. He asked where the savings will be realized "eventually?"
Mayor Jerry Wolford said it won't show up in personnel because of unemployment payments. He expected that to drop off next year.
Armeni said unemployment would run about a year and Hughes said "they have up to 99 months they can draw" and Armeni said, "then I'm going to call in the state auditor" and tell him "we're in the red."
Armeni said he didn't know what would happen to negotiated contracts if that occurred.
Hughes asked, "How do you justify a balanced budget and then come April 2 we throw it out? In August, I'll need another $70,000."
Nestic said, "A lot of things need to be negotiated and compromised ... a lot of things, not just the four-man minimum ..." Nestic said the fire department had no volunteers "but we do in the police department. We need to look at everything."
"I understand," Hughes said, "but it won't happen overnight ... there are ways to generate revenue."
Hughes expressed dissatisfaction with the transcripts from the last contract negotiations with the fire department while noting that part-timers were pulled off the table and now they had to wait until 2011 for the contract to expire to discuss that.
Nestic agreed with his contract assessment noting he didn't think much of it, but added he didn't know that "we have to wait till 2011" with the contract, with a "pending crisis."
He said, "We're not adversarial .... and can't be confrontational ..." but the feeling he got sometimes from some of the talk he's heard that's what it was.
Wolford wanted to put it behind and explained the "predicament" the city was in was made over time.
"More cuts, I don't like that," he said, adding the cuts they made were talked about months ago and Apple noted the income tax issue for capital improvements that was defeated. He said even if it was for the general fund "the results would have been the same."
The discussion turned to health care cuts. Nestic said they were paying between $18,500 to $19,000 per family for what he called a "Cadillac" plan. Some 55 families are enrolled.
He said there are companies "around here" with good plans for $9,000 a year" and Wolford said they were talking to their carrier. Nestic said that helped but the employee share needed to be looked at to bring costs down.
"What I don't feel sometimes," Nestic said, "there is not s spirit of cooperation from the people who have to make the sacrifices. These are low-hanging fruit ..."
Wolford said the city did all it could by going to the State Employee Relation Board (SERB) regarding those issues and Apple said he didn't want to rehash them. He said it was indicated the issues were intertwined.
Armeni said, "The bottom line is we lost a lot of revenue ... revenue always dictates the services ..."
Councilman Brian Whitehill asked what percentage of the overall expenses came from employees. Armeni was unsure of the exact figure and Whitehill said spending on safety employees had a 34 percent additional charge for pension and health insurance.
He said he was trying to "get all the figures (and) hopefully we can push forward on some of these compromise issues."
The committee also spoke to Police Chief Bob Floor about his budget and with Service Safety Director Steve Andres regarding the street, electrician and Housing, Planning and Zoning budgets and the City Humane officer's budget.
Larry Shields can be reached at
lshields@salemnews.net